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#31 02-29-2004 10:46pm

dckim211
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Re: Lyrics to Sun Kil Moon's 'Ghosts of the Great Highway'

Does anyone have any takes on where Mark grew up?  He makes a reference to "Golden Gate Elementary," and he resides in San Francisco. However he makes references to Ohio (in Carry me Ohio of course) and "farm house land escapes" in the song Have You Forgotten by Red House Painters.

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#32 03-01-2004 4:39pm

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Re: Lyrics to Sun Kil Moon's 'Ghosts of the Great Highway'

AFAIK mark grew up in ohio, then went to atlanta i believe, before heading out west to san francisco

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#33 03-06-2004 7:11am

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Re: Lyrics to Sun Kil Moon's 'Ghosts of the Great Highway'

so for glenn tipton....

I buried my first victim when I was nineteen
Went through her bedroom and the pockets of her jeans
And found her letters that said so many things
That really hurt me bad

it might be "my sister" and not "my first victim"

i don't know this for a fact, but i think it.

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#34 03-06-2004 11:13am

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Re: Lyrics to Sun Kil Moon's 'Ghosts of the Great Highway'

dckim211 wrote:

Does anyone have any takes on where Mark grew up?  He makes a reference to "Golden Gate Elementary," and he resides in San Francisco. However he makes references to Ohio (in Carry me Ohio of course) and "farm house land escapes" in the song Have You Forgotten by Red House Painters.

I've posted this elsewhere, but since it came up here...

Mark grew up in Massillon, Ohio, which is about 5 miles west of Canton and 60 miles south of Cleveland. It's an old steel town known for high school football and about nothing else.

And the river is Tuscarawas, which flows, along with I believe the Ohio Erie Canal, nearby to Massillon.

I'm from this area. I can't blame Mark for leaving.

JC


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#35 03-16-2004 6:28pm

over the river
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Re: Lyrics to Sun Kil Moon's 'Ghosts of the Great Highway'

I also spent a god deal of time in thold steel mining towns in the rust belt of ohio, andmy father is from cleveland.... I think that the experience lends itself to a certain kind of mournful songwriting.  I highly reccomend another Ohio based band, Over the Rhine.  The singer is from from Barnesville, Ohio... a backwards little place filled with strip mines and antique stores, but not much else.  Her husband, the song writer, grew up in Ohio and all over the place, and is an amazing story teller. 

I know it's not quite related, but your comment about Ohio just made me recall an aching place in my own heart that comes from reminiscing about the way that tired old river bends.

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#36 03-19-2004 1:03am

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Re: Lyrics to Sun Kil Moon's 'Ghosts of the Great Highway'

Duk Koo Kim

Looking out on my roof last night
Woken up from a dream
Saw a typhoon coming in close
Bringing the clouds down to the sea
Making the world look gray and alone
Taking all light from my view
Keeping everyone away
Keeping me here with you

Okay, I've listened to the live version, the acoustic version, and the album version and there is one slight change, and one consistant change.

In all three its Keeping everyone in this is easist to hear on the live version, on the acoustic version it is kind of slurred, but I noticed it was definitely one sylable, and it's clear in the live version, and matches the other two that it's "in"

the only other minor difference is that in the live version the third line up from this stanza is "taking all light out of view", which may be an earlier writing of the song.

cheers.

edit: whoops, missed page two, but the live version is slightly different in that way I mentioned. sorry for the repeat.

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#37 03-19-2004 1:50am

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Re: Lyrics to Sun Kil Moon's 'Ghosts of the Great Highway'

Okay, I transcribed this from a combination of the album version, and the hidden track version at the end of white christmas, the live version varries just slighty in 1 or two places by 1 or 2 word placements, so i have stuck with the album version:

...what I don't know is if Lily is a reference to a woman, or to the flower, since one -is- a name, and of course a flower as well, and both those themes are in the song, so perhaps each are a metaphor for the other.

Lily And Parrots

here she comes breakin through my window
in the early morning hours
for the moment, i am disrupted
but in time she'll make me smile

all the wonderous animals
roamin' round the earth
bring us songs of calm
they do no wrong
they do no wrong

you don't know just how much i miss you
yah my stomach aches in your absence
i don't know what i'd do without you
cause i'd have no one to follow

you are my love
i hold you above
everything and everyone
yeah everyone
everyone

hear outside all the kids are playin
they're my wake up call each day
look at them,
their little lives begining
i have watched them over years

blooming like sweet roses
dryin their wet noses
no thought of the cold
yeah i feel old
i feel old

yesterday we found a hidden passage
and i opened my sleepy eyes
through the trees parrots swept up past us
and the gardens there smelled good

all the pretty houses
decoratively coloured
tonight i want no other
than my own
than my own

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I'm fairly 99.9 certain that this is all correct, but if you find any discrepancies (other than the ones that certainly are on the live version on White Christmas), let me know.

cheers againe! ps. i spell color colour out of habbit, but of course, he'd probably spell it color.

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#38 03-19-2004 1:59am

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Re: Lyrics to Sun Kil Moon's 'Ghosts of the Great Highway'

AFAIK mark grew up in ohio, then went to atlanta i believe, before heading out west to san francisco

Yes, my sister picked up the reference to one of the streets he mentions in Atlanta in a song that at 4:06 in the morning, I currently forget, but will find out later.

urr... 4:07, Dunwoody Way. (street name, obviously... still too sleepy!)

wink

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#39 03-21-2004 10:36pm

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Re: Lyrics to Sun Kil Moon's 'Ghosts of the Great Highway'

Carry Me, Ohio

The line "Graving dreams," may actually be  "Gray vague dreams,"
which makes a little more sense.

:cry: sorry to say i missed the bowery ballroom show, but why did it have to fall on a sunday night.[/i][/b][/quote]

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#40 03-28-2004 11:43am

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Re: Lyrics to Sun Kil Moon's 'Ghosts of the Great Highway'

Pancho Villa
would never rest
until 1925
he closed his eyes
to [no clue on the rest of it]

(boxer name - sounds like Gozo the Phillipines)
the choirs and angels sing
Ukelele strings
play for his legend
Italy hurricane* [i don't think this is correct]

I would guess that the first line of that second stanza is actually "ghosts of the phillipines" seeing as a) pancho villa is probably the most famous filipino boxer and b) salvador sanchez had 2 stanzas devoted to him, so it'd make sense in the song's structure.  no clue about those other 2 lines, though.

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#41 04-16-2004 7:58pm

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Re: Lyrics to Sun Kil Moon's 'Ghosts of the Great Highway'

i think this is fairly correct. what do you think?

Glenn Tipton

Cassius Clay was hated more than Sonny Liston
Some like KK Downing more than Glenn Tipton
Some like Jim Neighbors, some Bobby Vinton
I like ‘em all

I put my feet up on the coffee table
I stay up late watching cable
I like old movies with Clarke Gable
Just like my dad does

Just like my dad did when he was home
Staying up late, staying up alone
Just like my dad did when he was thinking
Oh, how fast the years fly

I know an old woman ran a doughnut shop
She worked late serving cops
But then one morning, baby, her heart stopped
Place ain’t the same no more

Place ain’t the same no more
Not without my friend, Eleanor
Place ain’t the same no more
Man, how things change

I buried my first victim when I was nineteen
Went through her bedroom and the pockets of her jeans
And found her letters that said so many things
That really hurt me bad

I never breathed her name again
But I liked to dream about what could have been
I never heard her calls again
But I like to dream

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#42 04-16-2004 8:05pm

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Re: Lyrics to Sun Kil Moon's 'Ghosts of the Great Highway'

I believe it is definitely my first victim not sister. Also the one lyric in Salvador Sanchez is ghosts of the Philippines not gozo. And it is for sure cassius clay was hit more than sonny liston. I listen to this cd constantly it is terrific.  I went out and bought grace cathedral park. I had never even heard of Mark kozelek before this.

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#43 05-10-2004 9:42am

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Re: Lyrics to Sun Kil Moon's 'Ghosts of the Great Highway'

i definitely disagree.  i listen to this song pretty much all the time, and it's definitely hated and not hit.  of course, as soon as i get off work im gonna go home and listen to it again, but i'll be completely surprised if it's not hated.

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#44 05-31-2004 11:45am

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Re: Lyrics to Sun Kil Moon's 'Ghosts of the Great Highway'

i've heard "so cold and gold in their midwest new england sun"... a reference to the location of ohio... it's not the midwest, but not quite the east coast/new england either.
i've also heard "great lake dreams a million miles ago..."
i could be wrong.


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#45 05-31-2004 11:53am

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Re: Lyrics to Sun Kil Moon's 'Ghosts of the Great Highway'

massillon, ohio is correct.  and yes, it's a bit of a weird town.  high school football rules the land.  kozelek actually went to high school with chris speilman (former NFL player).  it's kind of weird... i hear reference to places in his songs and wonder if it's san fran or massillon.  massillon isn't the nicest of towns, but it's certainly not the worst.  i work about 15 minutes away.  and on a side note, there is a huge state-run psychiatric hospital in massillon.  hmmm.... make you wonder...


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