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#16 12-01-2006 4:13pm

godawful
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Re: The Cure

oh the cure, oh my teenage years, they were just what the doctor ordered. fat bob held a special place in my heart in my youth, then i slowly crossed over to getting more into the pope of mopes camp (mozz). 

but then came college, and everything changed.. i had a bachelor apartment about the size of a closet for $215 a month, i couldn't afford much, and sold plasma to keep the ramen flowing.  after months of anticipation, and promises that wild mood swings would sound more like kmkmkm, i ventured to the store and bought it. cluching it close to my breast i sped back to that shit hole apartment, where i could play the new album and be magically transported back to yesteryear of my youth...

oh my dismay when fat bob removed my still beating heart and replaced it with that festering pile of poo Wild Mood Swings.

i can only imagine its how star wars nerds felt when george lucas ruined their youth.

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#17 12-02-2006 12:46pm

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Re: The Cure

yeah the next 3 albums to be re-released are Disintegration, Wish and Wild Mood Swings next year.  haven't heard a date yet, though.

I think you should give "Wailing wall" and "The empty world" a second chance...

Dressing Up, Birdmad Girl, Piggy in the Mirror.. great stuff, especially when played live.

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#18 12-03-2006 1:21pm

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Re: The Cure

Disintegration with better sound quality? I think it sounds amazing as it is. The production is fantastic. I have played it on all my systems, decent seperates, mini hi-fi, car cd player and personal minidisc player and it sounds great on them all! Lament, i agree about the WMS B-sides, i like them too. I love that they have so many great b-sides. The sign of a good band. The Smiths did this too. Believe me, i have tried getting into The Top but it just doesn't do anything for me. An album with only about 3 songs on it that i like is NOT gonna get played often. WMS is ok, but songs like 'round and round and round' are utterly pointless. But then, i would get it just for the opening 2 tracks and Jupiter Crash. Look forward to seeing the new Festival DVD.

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#19 12-03-2006 1:27pm

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Re: The Cure

Think the re-releases are getting a bit much. IMHO, Disint, Wish and WMS are well produced and could not be improved noticeably. However, if the 'Lost Wishes' tracks are on the Wish one, that would be good as i still haven't heard them. Was listening to my favourite stuff from 'Join The Dots' earlier, great stuff. Yes, i generally agree about WMS being described as 'a festering pile of poo', hearing it for the first time reminded me of hearing Morrissey's 'Kill Uncle', that feeling of total disappointment. That is one damn awful album, thats for sure.

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#20 12-04-2006 5:51am

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Re: The Cure

the top is my favorite cure album, followed by standing on a beach B-sides, then pornagraphy. I absolutely worshipped the cure.  I have a great Bootleg of the cure peel sessions from 197* to 198*?? Great versions of some early album favorites. Also, there are loads of early cure shows circulating lately. LOTS!!!


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#21 12-04-2006 9:11am

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Re: The Cure

Seems like there are a lot of people around who love the Smiths and The Cure...although those bands hated each other and each other´s music...
I like the Smiths, but listening to "The Mozzfather"´s Kermit voice gets unbearable for me very quickly and I´m just not into that "intelligent young man, so sad and so boyish" thing...
I really love The Cure...

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#22 12-04-2006 9:32am

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Re: The Cure

Think the re-releases are getting a bit much.

Not sure what you mean?  It's been planned since 2004 that their entire back catalog (except the live albums, Japanese Whipsers and I'm assuming Mixed Up) is going to be re-released.. they're just rolling them out a few each year.  I'm just more upset that they're not being as complete as they can be (like the fact that they're leaving out tracks, like the extended mix of Primary, the extended Lovecats, etc).

as for the Wish remaster, I'm hoping for the 4 Lost Wishes tracks, the extended remix of A Letter to Elise (from the US promo), the Trip Mix of High, the Fix Mix of Open, and the Wish demos (Heart Attack, Old England, and Slvvy).   

DaveC check your PM.

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#23 12-07-2006 3:04pm

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Re: The Cure

Yeah, I know they planned to release them all as double packs. I was as excited as any Cure fan would be when i first heard. Here is my gripe.....Its making fans buy every album again when chances are they already have them.......After buying the first 4 re-releases i found a lot of the bedroom/home demos and live stuff not that enjoyable to listen to more than once. Some i could not even play right through once........the packaging sucks. I hate digipacks.

Why pack a CD in a card case? Each time you pick it up and put it down its likely to get more scratched and damaged. This annoys me about MK too. Have not opened my LDB live CD yet as its a xmas present, but just shaking it around i can tell the case is broken. But of course its not a regular case so i can't replace it!

Back to the Cure, Join The Dots was great, rather than the re-releases i would sooner see JTD as a bigger set or a seperate box released with all the GOOD unreleased songs on it. I would consider myself a big Cure fan, but not hardcore enough to seek out every single song or part of song they ever recorded. While the hardcore fans look out for that super-rare version of 'The Final Sound' that Robert recorded whilst on the toilet (!), i will enjoy the pure quality of the songs that DID make it onto album!

Rant over, having said all this i will be interested to see whats on the Dis/Wish CDs!

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#24 12-21-2006 3:46pm

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Re: The Cure

flytox wrote:

They played two shows in Berlin three or four years ago called "The Trilogy Shows" where they played RS´s favourite Cure albums entirely: Pornography, Disintegration and Bloodflowers. Sold out so I couldn´t be there, but there is a DVD of it...

i was there for the first night, they played a scfond encore which didnt make the DVD, although they played a gig in Hamburg a few days before Berlin which was my favourite Cure gig, they played pretty much everything else that wasnt on the trilogy albums, + 3 encores

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#25 12-22-2006 2:18am

flytox
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Re: The Cure

Seems like you are into really good music...I guess you named yourself after a The Jesus Lizard song?

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#26 12-22-2006 8:23am

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Re: The Cure

I haven't bought anything by The Cure since Disintegration but every album (including The Top) had mainly quality songs interspersed with the odd duff squawk. So Rotund Robert (Fat Bob to his mates)  looks faintly ridiculous NOW but Kiss Me, Pornography, 17 Seconds, Faith, 3 Imaginary Boys are all superb (oh yeah and The Top, The Head on the Door, Japanese Whispers and Disintegration). No other album I've heard since has encaptulated Utter Despair and Chaos like Pornography. Has anyone heard that cover version of A Forest which was released this year? Excellent in fact.

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#27 01-03-2007 5:32am

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Re: The Cure

for the fans of the earlier cure you really need to go get the reissues. The rarities/demos for the top, head on the door, pornography and three imaginary boys are just amazing and will respark your love and kind of ease your disappointment from the last couple of new releases. Really worth exploring. Really good stuff.


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#28 01-03-2007 9:28am

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Re: The Cure

You really think the Pornography reissue is worth buying? I don´t think so. The demos are very bland and the mastering of the CD is horrible. I still like my old vinyl most...

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#29 01-03-2007 11:46am

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Re: The Cure

Well, I think for many fans of earlier stuff that have been disappointed by the last couple of releases, it would be a breath of fresh air. I have'nt even listened to disc one and don't really see a need to except to maybe get rid of my old cd to replace with the new?!? Would love to replace it with vinyl... hehe


And in my eyes, your smile

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#30 01-19-2007 2:46am

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Re: The Cure

I personally come from a different place than most of you, I actually got into the cure in 2001. So I started off with disintegration, didn't get into it much, but after more listening - WOW. Each week that passed I picked up a "new" album from the beginning to the end, and was blown away. Sorry I love wild mood swings, everything after it. I guess it's because I flew through the entire catalog so fast that it really somehow fit in a nice place. I can't wait for more cure, I was VERY impressed with the last s/t release.

Speaking of smiths, I don't think I'll ever get over the hypnotic "reel around the fountain"... It makes me so sad yet so good at the same time... Morrissey and his painful words, the consistent guitars over and over and over again... Sighhh I love it.

RonC

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